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police chiefs of this country support the mayor. senator feinstein, congress, state senators, and mayors like mayor lee that we're fortunate to have, on gun control. senator feinstein will re-submit the assault weapons ban which bans 100 specific assault rifles, including the weapon used in sandy hook and high-capacity magazines of 10 rounds or more. there's other things that we as major city chiefs would like to see happen, such as the banning of internet ammo sales. we'd like to see in-person transactions. the record of sales and licensing of ammo vendors, and other things i can talk to you about off line. we are doing everything we can to make san francisco a safer place and reduce violent crime. the mayor spoke of ipo, which he introduced at the very beginning of august. and for the first august in memory and maybe even on record, we suffered zero homicides in that month. unfortunately one homicide in the city is too many. we've had 67 this year to date, which is up over the last couple years, record low. still the best we've had in 10 years absent those record lows. gun violence is
for economic co-operation and development but also last year we saw a bill proposed in congress from senator sanders and representative elliso, all of which identify over $10 billion annually that are going to the fossil fuel industry in subsidies. melissa: but you say hard-earned dollars. congress doesn't have any money. they don't have money to give the money they have is my money taken from me. it is companies money they have paid in. it is tax revenue. exxon is hanging on to earnings, rather these are deductions rather than sending even more tax dollars they're paying less tax based on investments they're making. you're calling those things subsidies. that is not congress's money that is exxon's money hanging on to but they'r not taking money back. they're hanging onto the money they have earned. do you understand that point? >> i disagree with your perspective. basically i pay taxes. you pay taxes. melissa: on pays taxes? >> exxon does not pay their fair share. they get tax breaks that are written into the law by their very highly-paid lobbies and supported by the many congresspeople wh
you say? >> first of all, as you know, from congress to the senate and people in his or her state -- this pledge is protecting american people through tax increases. we haven't had a republican republican vote for a tax increase in 22 years. that has really slowed down the growth of government from what it would've been otherwise. now, obama comes in and wants to spend more and raise taxes. republicans are saying no. we would have a problem if obama hadn't increased the budget by a trillion dollars more a year. gerri: let's face it, whether you're talking about stimulus spending, obamacare, that's3 going to go through the roof, the things that you're going to pay for all this with higher taxes is lunacy, to say the least. on that note, we're going to have to leave it there. thank you for coming, grover. we hope to see you in the new year. christmas sales were weaker than expected. so now retailers have to give shoppers deeper discounts. in a new proposal to help struggling homeowners. don't worry, the government will take care of you. we will explain coming up next ally bank. why
should go over the fiscal cliff. congress and the senate should go back to the last legally passed budget and whatever money was appropriated, that is what we should appropriate for spending. if i didn't do my job for four years, i would have been fired. why are they able to keep getting paid? there should be something in the law that would say their benefits would stop. they should have their own pension fund. if their pension was the same as a people that work for, social security will not be going bankrupt. host: we will continue to track the work of congress. house and senate come back into session tomorrow. there could be sessions this weekend. the new congress comes in next week. we will have plenty of coverage as the new congress comes into session. we're still hearing about the change in filibuster rules in the senate. we will be there to cover it all. the house is here on c-span. we will be interviewing some retiring members of congress tonight. they are dan burton and kent conrad. here is what they had to say. [video clip] >> i would like people to think that he believed in hone
president obama supports a ban on assault weapons proposed by california democratic senator dianne feinstein. getting it through congress quickly is highly unlikely, but the mere mention of a ban is enough to send sales soaring. and it's not just guns. brownell's, the world's largest firearm supplier, said it morently sold more than three- and-a-half years worth of a.r.- ag magazines in three days. even before newtown, sales of guns and ammunition this year were surging. chb.i. background checks of intential gun buyers were up 31% 20 november 2012 over 2011. in a report issued prior to newtown, the market research rack ibis world, which tracks the gun industry, found gun venthusiasts are working dermselves into a frenzy over what another four years under the obama administration may hold for gun laws." an instructor at nova firearms re falls church, virginia, where hey nearly sold out of a.r.-15s and high-capacity magazines after newtown. so, ironically, this shooting is a.spiring more people to buy this gun, the a.r.-15, and these mgh-round magazines. >> if i could, i would give ynator fein
morning as the senate is set to reconvene. all eyes right now are on the upper chamber of congress as this really is coming down to harry reid trying to cobble together a measure to avert the fiscal cliff. whether that can be achieved is still very much up in the air. as of right now, president obama has gone back to his original demand that the bush era tax cuts be extended only for the first $250,000 in earnings. the white house is talking to senate democrats about what their proposal may look like. but as of yet, neither is in communication with congressional republicans. and as the white house hashes out details of the reid plan with senate democrats, it's at this moment unclear exactly what form it will take, what it will look like, other than to deal no doubt wheith tax cuts. details may not be released for a few days as they try to get republican support, yes, but also try to put pressure on speaker boehner by moving a vote in the senate closer to the new year. trying to say to house republicans and the speaker take up this bill that we may pass or take the blame for going o
the president. there is still time to get something done, just the way the mechanics of congress work. getting the senate to the agreement and running out the clock and calling the house republicans back. it's hard to see how they can vote on something before newier's eve. >> marty, to steve's point, one of the major source of pain is the payroll tax cut. when they negotiate a deal, unfortunately it's going away. i was taking a look at something nate was writing as he wants to do, talking about the numbers here. specifically looking at the break down of who was in the house. between tea party republicans of which there is a lot and blue dog democrats of which there few and liberal democrats. he is basically making the point that if boehner does want to stick with the principal that he is going to pass something with a majority of his caucus, he will need a significant amount of support or some support from liberal democrats, not just blue dogs. what kind of a deal could realistically get to the house that holds together most of the caucus and also brings along some liberal democrats? >> that's
weapons proposed by california democratic senator dianne feinstein. getting it through congress quickly is highly unlikely, but the mere mention of a ban is enough to send sales soaring and, it's not just guns. brownells said it recently sold more than three and a half years worth of ar-15 magazines in three days. even before newtown, sales of guns and ammunition this year were surging. fbi background checks of potential gun buyers were up 31% in november 2012 over 2011. in a report issued prior to newtown, the market research firm ida's world that tracks the gun industry, found gun enthesists are working themselves into a frenzy over what another four years under the obama administration may hold for gun laws. chuck is an instructor at nova firearms in falls church, virginia, where they nearly sold out of ar-15's and high capacity magazines after newtown. >> so ironically this shooting is inspiring more people to buy this gun, the ar-15 and the high round magazines? >> if i could, i would give senator feinstein and the president salesmen of the year awards. >> reporter: senator feinste
with the fiscal cliff and being a member of congress especially a respected member of the senate and what do you think is possible at this point on any type of a large scale deal. what do you see as the most likely scenario moving forward. >> i don't think it's a lack of urgency, but a great deal of concern that republican party failed to do anything. it seems that in the house, boehner has no control over his extreme right wing faction. i think the american people are very clear about what they want. what they want is to ask the wealthiest people in the country to pay their fair share of taxes. there was a poll out the other day, 70% of the american people think folks making over $250,000 a year should pay their fair share. they understand that one out of four corporations are paying nothing. the american people are very, very clear throughout this election and in polling as well. do not cut social security, medicare and medicaid. you have the situation with republicans saying hey, we don't think billionaires should pay a nickel more in taxes, but we think there should be cuts in programs impac
and the army, a combat expert went before congress and was asked by a senator, how many troops do you think it will take to stabilize the place? he was shot down that day by a secretary of defense and almost disgraced. how can you possibly need more to cure a place after you take it? he was right and pretty much cutoff at the knees. there were others like that. a senior officer who knew better, but the voices didn't carry the day. when baghdad fell, everybody was cheering and that was good. no doubt our troops can do that. as i said in the book, that's not the end of a concept. >> was it tommy frank's responsibility to speak out and say we need more troops? >> i don't know what time he did or did not. they were focused on trying to see if they can do it with a minimum number of troops. they could. baghdad fell quickly. the iraqi army is not what it was years ago. once it fell, it didn't mean the conflict was over. >> general, you speak and write candidly in the book, february 5th, 2003, the day you remember as much as your own birthday for all the wrong reasons. the initial case was a disas
something, they've still got to sell this to the individual members of congress, not just on the senate side but also these house republicans who have shown a willingness to sometimes take things to the very edge. >> mr. boehner was not able to pass through or bring to the floor his proposal on plan b which would have allowed tax rates to stay where they were except on the million dollar plus earners. is his speakership in the balance here in any sense? >> in some ways, not bringing stuff to the floor is actually better for him with his own members. they don't want to take votes that they see as purely -- as purely sort of signals. they don't want to vote to raise taxes if they're not actually going to be moving that package forward, if they're going to vote to raise taxes or at least let tax rates expire on the upper end, they only want to do that once. that's not something they want to keep doing. certainly if speaker boehner puts something on the floor that his republican conference is not happy with, that's a risk that he's taking. >> has the president moved much on spending? because we
to negotiate with congress, a way to avert this booklet but only the senate will be back in session. >> house members have not been called back to work. >> president obama is cutting his holiday vacation sure to come back and work on a deal. any deal may be a short-term fix. president obama will be leaving forwarmth of yhawaii washington. there is no specific deal on the table. democrats blame republicans for not agreeing to end tax cuts for the wealthiest americans. >> we're not going to let the rich pay one dime more. there is something awfully wrong with that picture. the american public is seeing that. >> republicans will not agree. they see there may be room for compromise. >> i know i am not in the majority and the red states annett -- in the senate. we have to sit down and hammer something out. >> if no deal is reached, americans will see their income taxes go up. 2 million peoplwill lose their jobless benefits. $110 billion in spending cuts will hit federal agencies. analysts predict fewer companies will hire. >> that level of activity will translate into consumption, lack of business
of the gridlock and excesses in the senate and congress itself, we have not even been able to pursue the regular order of authorizing legislation. that must change. in the next session of congress, i hope it will. as in any government entity, we know that when a budget is cut and money is fungible, you stretch every dollar. for some time now, overseas resources have been cut or withheld, and important foreign policy objectives have been starved. consider that last year we spent approximately $650 billion on our military. by contrast, the international affairs budget is less than one-tenth of the pentagon's. secretary gates has spoken about this and strongly urged the congress to address that imbalance. we have not yet. admiral mullen pointed out, the more diplomacy is cut, the more lives are lost. we have to make certain that we are not penny-wise and pound-foolish when it comes to supporting americas vital overseas interests. adequately funding foreign-policy initiatives is not spending, but investing in our long-term security, and more often or not, it saves far more expensive expenditures in
the country back from the economic edge. only half of congress is going back to business at andrews. the senate will be in session and the house on holiday. democrats in the house were amping up the pressure. house gop puts middle class americans in jeopardy while clinging to tax cuts for the wealthy. no 48 notice on house votes. the potus on his way to d.c. to address fiscal cliff for the middle class with six days left to act. gop still mia. joining me now from hawaii, kristin welker. was the president expected? >> we did expect that given there was no deal on the fiscal cliff that he would have to return early from his hawaiian vacation. he will be flying out late or this evening. the first lady and the first daughters continuing his hawaiian vacation. he will find himself in a similar situation. the negotiations are largely deadlocked. just to give you a sense of how we got to where we are, if you go back to last week, it seemed like the house and speaker were getting close to getting a big deal that would have included tax reform and deficit reduction. that fell apart. house sp
to governor shaheen and senator ayotte for serving as attorney general. when my mother ran for congress, up 15% of voters would not even consider a woman candidate. when i think of the courage -- for the rest of us, now women on the ballot are very much accepted. >> i have to tell a story. susan used to tell the story about campaigning in that 1980 election. one time she was at a gas station -- annie was with her. the man said, why are you not home taking care of your kids? she said, my daughter is with me -- she is taking care of me. [laughter] the man said, then you should be home taking care of your babies. she said, that is my baby and she is taking care of me. [laughter] >> through the generations. your mom must have been a powerful role model for you. >> she was and she is. i grew up in a family -- my mom taught high school history. my dad alternated between teaching college and serving in public service. he was a political scientist. certainly, politics was something we discussed and followed. one of the things i think we do not talk much about -- my dad hired a lot of women to be on hi
were not for john boehner's plan "b" then agree with a bipartisan bill coming over from the senate? >> does it matter? if you look at the bipartisan agreement that is have come to this congress, the multiple agreements to avert shutdown, a debt ceiling deal two summers ago, oftentimes started with negotiations between the speaker of the house and president and ended being mostly in negotiation between the two senate leaders, getting enough republican senate votes to give people in the house cover and providing a lot of democratic votes in the house to pass it. you will have conservatives in the house that aren't going to support any plan you put forward. >> regardless, right. >> so you need democratic support and this idea that what happened last week with the boehner back-up plan meant that no plan will pass at all is misguided. this is how it rolls out every time but it's a matter of how large in scope to be to get enough votes. you can't go too far in one direction and alienate democratic votes and in the other way the more middle of the road republicans who support boehner is g
comes through the senate in 1959, only 19 offices in the entire congress are integrated. only 19 out of 534 offices are integrated. bird is one of the 19. he's one of the 19, when the naacp lawyers come to byrd's office to lobby for the civil rights bill and byrd opposes it, they're stunned to be greeted by african-american staffers. when they submit the number of officers voting for the civil rights bill, totally white. byrd is one who integrated the capitol hill police force. he appointed patriot powers and appointed the first african- american and the second african-american to the police force. byrd is the one who integrated the capitol hill police force. the washington starr said how can you call this guy a racist? i can go on with example after example. if you pull things out of context, yeah, like his conservative background, when they talk about being racist conservative. the majority issues, that's why he voted that way, not because he's conservative, because the issue, as byrd said to me, i never changed, the issues changed. the very first thing when he's elected to congres
burton and senator kent conrad. mr. burton, an indiana republican, served in congress for 30 years end-1990s chaired the house oversight committee. senator conrad, a north dakota democrat has been in office 20 years and chairs the senate budget committee. our interview with congressman burton is at 8:00 eastern tonight and senator conrad follows at 8:30. the house and senate are back in session tomorrow. the senate is in at 10:00 a.m. eastern for work on two bills, the first would extend provisions of foreign intelligence surveillance act, the others that $60 billion relief package for areas affected by hurricane sandy. the house reconvenes at 2:00 p.m. eastern. house leaders have not release the schedule of legislative activity for tomorrow. live coverage from the house floor on c-span and senate live on c-spanat 2. c-span2. >> united states discovered surveillance flights and the tension builds that we have a quarantine or blockade around cuba and one of the things that happened in that time is a soviet submarine is found by american ships and they dropped depth charges on the soviet
and the senate. the burden is now on them to try to strike some sort of a deal. that's because on friday before congress left for christmas, the house was unable to get any sort of a deal passed through. >> and, reena, give us a play-by-play. what can we expect this week? where will the white house be focusing their efforts? >> reporter: right. as i mentioned, capitol hill, now, taking the emphasis over at the senate side. the other concern that the white house does have is to make sure they come to their different party lines. the democrats want to see, obviously, the middle class not faced with any sort of tax hike. which there are $500 billion of tax hikes expected on january 1st. republicans are saying that spending cuts. they want to see more of that. and democrats do not want to go off of their focus on where they are right now, to get to that point. that's really a big divide that both the white house and capitol hill is facing right now. >> let's look at everyone left for christmas break. this seemed like it was going nowhere. is there any hope over the next few days that a deal is goin
to the hill. senators return to the capitol tomorrow. the question remains krks the president join congress and surf the rough political waters to get a deal in time? >> i think he's doing all he can and calving hell at the same time and there's give, give. i think it's very, very difficult, particularly after boehner's plan "b" failed. >> the key issue i think and the american people are catching on is that the problem that we have is we have a right wing political figure in the house way, way, way out of touch of what the american people are thinking. >>> there's early economic sinls that the uncertainty over the cliff may have clayed the role of scrooge this holiday season. early holiday numbers point to the worst year to year growth since 2008. >>> i think the president is steward of this economy needs to try to reach the big compromise with speaker boehner and the two men came very close. >> all right. let's check in and say good morning to nbc news correspondent mike vi cara now. >> they have indicated they would be back on the 27th and doing the math and take in to account the time z
king well knows when he signed it is as long as you're in congress you will rein in spending and reform government, not raise taxes. it's not for 500 years or two generations. it's only as long as you're in the house or the senate. if he stayed too long, that's his problem. but you don't tell the bank, oh, the mortgage, wasn't that long time ago? if you make a commitment, you keep it. >> coming up, was mitt romney done in by his own party? when we come back, the republican presidential candidates who may have inflicted mortal damage on him rather than president obama. >> i'm just going to go back to the empty chair, which was going to be todd akin, who was going to talk to me about what hide said about rape and women. since it's just the chair, my obvious question would have about why are you such an offensive idiot to women? and the second obvious question, which again has to go to the chair unfortunately, would be why haven't you resigned yet? anyway, let's leave it there, shall we? they have carb steady, with carbs that digest slowly to help minimize blood sugar spikes. [ male announ
to avert the fiscal cliff is the senate, which returns tomorrow. majority leader harry reid is devising a partial solution that could ease economic fears. >> if we go over in a chaotic fashion, where members of congress are deeply grid locked with no sign of coming together, then we're likely to go over and stay over. and that's very problematic. >> reporter: going over the cliff would restore higher bush era tax rates and trigger deep spending cuts on january 1st. congress set up the harsh mechani mechanism, hoping it would force a compmise, but it hasn't. >> washington remains on square one in the fiscal cliff talks. >> reporter: congress reached this brink before christmas when speaker john boehner failed to get enough house republicans to support his solution, threw up his hands and said it's up to leader reid and the president. >> how we get there, god only knows. >> reporter: aides say reid's plan would avoid tax increases for people making less than $250,000, eliminate spending cuts and restore unemployment benefits. >> what needs to happen now is for a sense of desperation amon
dems. we are waiting on senate democrats. if nothing's done, january 1st, the nation faces a $5 trillion tax increase over ten years through the expiration of the bush tax cuts and assuming congress does not approve the patch anded medicare doc fix, and other things. the lapse of the tax cuts means the top tax rate reverts to 39.6 from 35% now. taxes would also go up for lower income earners. the maximum low rate would revert to 15% from 10% now, and investors see capital gains rate revert from 20%, revert to 20%, rather from 15% now. depending on what analysis you look at, average families could pay $2,000 to $4,000 more in taxes next year. ashley? ashley: that's the why it's called the cliff. thank you, peter. >> you bet. ashley: the speaker stuck in a storm, but the phones do work. bell ringing soon, and amazon known for customer service, especially over the holidays, but it's not cared over to the web hosting business. merry christmas for hollywood. ticket sales going through the roof. details when "count down" returns. ♪ ♪ >> well, earlier, of course, we touched on the
gerri: hello, everybody, i'm gerri willis. one of the big issues congress is promising to tackle is immigration. congress passed the jobs act replaces green card lottery to permanent visas to those with doctorates in science, technology, engineering and math. two outgoing republican senators introducing legislation granting residence to those bought in the country illegally. though call it the achieve act, similar to the d.r.e.a.m. act. i spoke to one. bill's cosponsors, senator kay bailey hutchison. welcome to you here. how is your legislation different than the d.r.e.a.m. act? >> our legislation gives legal status to the young people in conundrum. they have grown up here. this is the country they know yet they are illegal because their parents brought them here before they were 14 years old. but we don't go into a citizenship track. we allow them to get in line behind the people who have been lawful and waited in line. so we don't give them a preference in line but we do give them a legal status and we don't prohibit them from getting in line if they choose to go the citizenshi
of the debt ceiling crisis it was harry reid, the democrat leader in the senate and mcconnell, the republican leader who emerged as adults in the room and worked up something that got through congress. we are on the verge of something like that or at least an attempt to replicate that. how much of a role will whitehouse play, might just be as in 2011 the two senate leaders decide they can take care of this themselves. we will see when president obama gets back tomorrow. dennis: small, thinking a smaller deal rather than something sweeping. >> there was a sense the week or two ago that you have a big deal or we go off of the cliff but dynamics change next week and the reality is what is possible here is a small deal probably something that deals with the tax breaks or tax levels for most americans under $250,000 or maybe half a million dollars being extended, great uncertainty about everything else including tax rate for others in spending cuts and decisions kicked into next year seem to be possible and if that is possible the kind of deal i just described is probably only possible through the
with the latest. >> reporter: if congress doesn't act immediately taxes will go up on all americans next tuesday. senate members are scheduled to get back to work tomorrow but there is no timetable for the house. many lawmakers pessimistic they will reach a deal. the president and the senate agreed to race taxes on houses making more than $250,000 a year. if the republican controlled house that's holding out. the house speaker wants a tax increase only for those making a million dollars or more. joe lieberman feel we will go over the cliff. >> it would be the biggest consequencal act of congressional irresponsibility in a long time. >> reporter: the current congress is only in session until january 3rd. there is no deal by then, nearly 100 new members of congress woulden heart the problem. >> thank you. starbucks ceo is pushing federal lawmakers to resolve the fiscal cliff. he ask asking workers at all 120 washington stores to write come together on every cup they hand to customers thursday and friday. he said he wants to send a message to lawmakers to find common ground and fix the issue. th
a record for making history. she was the first woman to serve as the state attorney general. u.s. senator kelly ayotte. [applause] she was the first new hampshire woman elected to congress in 2006. please join me in welcoming representative elect carol shea- porter. [applause] and our newly elected official representing new hampshire's second district, represented a lacked ann mclane kuster -- elect ann mclane kuster. [applause] finally this morning, the new governor for the state of new hampshire -- please join me in welcoming governor elect maggie hassan. [applause] >> welcome. so exciting. thank you all so much for coming. good morning. so great to see all of you this morning. thank you so much. i really appreciate it. good morning. we have a lot to talk about this morning. in my world, never enough time -- i am sure yours as well. i'm just going to jump right in. i hope we can have a great, well-rounded conversation. the first question i want to ask you is something we talked about -- on the day after the election, people all over the united states seemed so profoundly excited. viewin
not get republican votes. >> all eyes turn to the senate that could be key to a deal on plan "c." scaled-back bill that the president says will focus on unemployment benefits and reverting to the 250,000 level on taxes. >> i asked leaders of congress to work toward a package that prevents a tax hike on middle class americans, protects unemployment insurance for 2 million americans. lays the groundwork for further work on growth and deficit reduction. >> that means taxes go up for some now and spending cut on medicare and other programs are kicked to another date. >> what the president offered so far won't do anything to solve the spending problem and begin to address the crippling debt. >> gallup in early december saying 58% of the public thought we'd avert the fiscal cliff. new poll shows it's dipped to 50% thinking that. the public thinks we are headed for a big problem. >> doug: breaking news from treasury secretary geithner it go about the debt ceiling. are we about to go to default? >> yes and no. secretary gite it go says today that we will hit debt ceiling on december 31, new year
this coming as the senate reconvene tomorrow and folks waiting for the senate to make the next move in this standoff and the president of course come back to town tomorrow as well. david: peter, will there be, i know the president and congress is all focused on the fiscal cliff, will there be any negotiations before the december 31 deadline on the debt ceiling number or will they table that and let treasury deal with it until they have to? >> the white house would like there to be one global deal that includes the debt ceiling but republicans are hearing nothing of that. the president proposed let's get rid of actually having firm vote on raising the debt ceiling, let's reduce a simpler system because of it rattles the market too much but republicans are saying they want to hold the debt ceiling in reserve in the negotiations because if you can't get a deal on taxes or prove some legislation december 31 raising tax increases, they want to use the debt ceiling to force negotiations on spending cuts going forward, david. david: tim geithner is on his own until the first of the year. >
. that's an effort to pressure congress. secondly, the house republicans have met, leadership has met, sent a letter to democrats saying the house has acted, now it's up to the senate to act. that's, of course, the m theic-controlled senate which has no intention of taking up that house bill, which would extend all of the bush tax cuts. the president wants to only extent cuts for incomes under $250,000. senate democratic leadership aide tells me there's a 50/50 chance for a mini deal, temporary extension of the tax cuts, before january 1st, but we haven't seen any progress on it yet. president obama is coming back early as you mentioned, from his vacation in hawaii, but a senior white house official tells me they have seen no signs yet of progress toward a deal, so, everybody is going to have to wait for a couple of days. >> so, there's no indication at this point that there are any scheduled meetings tomorrow or anything to that effect, press conferences, news conferences to update the american people on what is going on in d.c.? >> everybody's got telephones, so, there's doubtless c
. >> thank you, luke. >> so we know now the ball is in the senate's court, emphasis is now on harry reid and mitch mcconnell. seems the house is not in session. johnny isakson, your colleague from georgia said congress should pass the $250,000 and below deal because that's what's going to happen afterwards. do you think that should happen? >> i do not. i think $250,000 is too low a threshold. a lot of working people who are couples would exceed that. however, i talked to some of my democratic colleagues and they are saying maybe in the $400,000 or $500,000 category we could set a benchmark. i do think it is essential that we start talking about what amount can be passed on a bipartisan basis, because, you know, i'm one who believes you shouldn't tax anyone right now. i would have supported plan b. i think that we've got to come to some terms with the impact that this is going to have and remember the other parts of this, making the child tax credit permanent, the marriage penalty relief permanent. these are things that go with any kind of a threshold that we hopefully could agree on. >>
the estate tax cut, which is -- which is also going to run out, but, again, they're not even -- the senator won't even consider doing this, i'm told, unless he's sure they'll get through the senate and the house because politically they don't think there is any reason for congress to take votes that are just going to fail. also, they that i it will be bad for the markets, even worse for the markets to have failed votes and then go off the fiscal cliff. >> so the idea that john boehner is even having this conference call, discussing the possibility of bringing the house back into order, is that an indication that he's optimistic that there will be something that he could get a few minority, even of his party to support? >> reporter: i, you know, i like the idea of being optimistic, especially in this holiday season, but i think that probably not. i think this is really more of a housekeeping question because they have to tell their members something and the question is when they r thare they going to. you know, stranger things have happened. the other thing i'm told, when you're talking abou
and senate republicans or the white house and senate democrats and house republicans and there needs to be agreement because the expectation, if something passes i will say this, if something manages to get through congress, it is going to require democratic and republican votes, so at some point, they all have to be talking and that still isn't happening at this point. >> briannna, thanks. seems like they should go to hawaii, sit on a beach and cool off. i guess you're coming back to d.c., thanks a lot. >> reporter: i am, thanks. >> that's the solution. that's the solution. >> could be. >>> nine minutes after the hour. other top stories we're learning more this morning about that sniper who killed two volunteer firefighters on christmas eve morning. according to police 62-year-old william spangler left behind a note "i still have to get ready to see how much of the neighborhood i can burn down and do what i like doing best, killing people." early monday morning spengel sent fire to his fire and began shooting at firefighters as they arrived on the scene. he killed himself after shoo
in the senate and the house. those discussions have to take place at some point if there's going to be some republican support for any bill that might pass congress to avert the fiscal cliff. >> brianna keilar reporting live from hawaii this morning. >>> checking our top stories before heading back to d.c. to try to head off the physical -- the fiscal cliff. you know what i'm saying. the president and first lady michelle obama visited marines and thanked them for their service. >> the greatest honor i have as president is being commander in chief and the reason it's an honor is because not only do we have the finest military in the world but we also have the finest fighting men and women in the world. >> mrs. obama and the girls won't cut short their vacation. they're staying on in hawaii. >>> former braves great andruw jones free on a bond in atlanta on a battery charge. there was a domestic dispute between he and his wife. the center fielder played with the new york yankees last year and recently signed with a team in japan. >>> the city of los angeles is holding its annual gun buyback to
going to become law. remember, a member of congress, a republican, i know plenty of them, are willing to vote for revenue increases. they say we have this deal harry reid said the senate won't pick up and ask you to vote for revenue increase or tax hike, a lot of republicans will say hell no to that whereas they might vote for the larger deal that stands for a chance of addressing the fiscal cliff. >> congressman, what is the chance we're doing this in february alling to with t ing i together with the debt ceiling and everything combined. >> that is an interesting question. we are talking about the debt ceiling. here, you will see a slight change in style of congress. there is a camp in the republican camp that says let's do nothing until we get to debt ceiling because that re-established our ledge. there is a movement that the president and congress say we're not going to play hostage again where we get downgraded and the country is on a real cliff and not pay our bills. there is a chance democrats look at republicans, say, fine, don't raise the debt ceiling, the fault of the united
much. the >> tonight, interviews with retiring members of congress. first, dan burton has been a member of the u.s. house for 30 years. and then north dakota democrat kent conrad that is leaving the senate after five terms. we spoke with them about how things have changed on capitol hill since they were elected. and join us tonight at 8:00 p.m. eastern on c-span. on tomorrow morning's washington journal, we ask business owners to call and and ask about the fiscal cliff. and we talked to the chief economist, lawrence yun. and discussions about the fiscal cliff negotiations as congress returns to washington. and later, a discussion on background checks, how they work, and when they are required. washington journal is live at 7:00 a.m. eastern on c-span. columnist in a news analyst talks about the relationship with religion and american politics. he was introduced by the former missouri senator and ambassador to the united nations and john danforth. from washington university, this is an hour-and-a-half. >> finally, it is my honor to introduce senator john danforth, who will introduce mr.
to leave for washington tonight. congress expected to return on thursday. president, guys, not expected to actually arrive in washington until tomorrow morning. no talks scheduled that we know of as of yet. all the attention's going to turn to the senate, which tends to be more of a compromising body than the house is. >> yes. and the president is available in person if you should want to go over there and visit with him. or perhaps if he wants to visit with anybody else. the consensus seems to be if you get some sort of a deal, it's obviously not going to be the big deal. it will simply be something that extends the tax cuts for the vast majority of americans, at least those earning less than $250,000 a year. the consensus seems to be, carl, that if we don't get a deal by the second or third or fourth week, the super bowl week, we'll start to feel it in the economy. >> we had a notable sell-off. there is typically a bias on christmas eve, but the worst christmas eve performance for the dow since 2006 because of the jitters about the fiscal cliff. it will be an interesting few days as c
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